Variety and spice: How the arm ball can turn you from stock spinner to strike bowler
The arm ball, or floater, is probably the single best weapon an orthodox finger spinner can have. Ray Illingworth says he once took 41 wickets of 135 in a season just with the arm ball.
At first the ball seems counterproductive. Spinners should spin the ball hard, hoping to impart enough revolutions on the ball for it to dip late in its flight and move off the pitch. This is true for the stock delivery and is what you should do at least 80% of the time.
The arm ball gives you the perfect suprise variation from this.
The batsman is expecting the ball to spin as normal but you have bowled a ball that swings in the opposite direction with almost no change to your action: The off spinner's arm bowl swings away from the right hander, the left arm spinner's swings in.
This brings in the possibility of deceiving a player. Getting him bowed or caught at slip (in the off spinners case). In short, a true wicket taking delivery.
The key difference between the arm ball and the stock ball for a finger spinner is the grip. The basic grip looks like this:
As you already know, this grip allows you to roll your fingers and wrist around as if turning a key in a lock. This imparts spin on the ball. The more you 'rip' it, the more spin is possible.
The arm ball is best bowled with no change of action, however your grip changes to one that looks like this
This allows you to swing or drift the ball using the seam as a rudder in the same way as a medium pace bowler. However you still look like you are bowling a stock spinning delivery. The shiny side of the ball should be on the leg side if you are an off spinner.
While you no longer use your fingers or wrist to impart turn, according to Ray Illingworth, it's still important to follow through in the same way. This is mainly to trick the batsman, but it also helps the ball swing.
Line and length for an arm ball
The arm ball is a shock wicket taking delivery. As a result you should be prepared to take more of a risk with it by pitching it further up. This makes the ball hard to sweep (bringing in bowled and LBW dismissals) and tempts the drive.
The line for off spinners to right handers is best on middle stump. If the batsman plays for spin he will edge it or be bowled.
The line for left arm spinners is outside off stump, swinging it back in to bowl the batsman through the gate.
It's important not to overuse this variation as it loses its element of surprise. Your main variations will come from the amount of flight and turn you impart on the ball.
However, used now and again you can have great success. It's especially effective early in a batsman's innings. You can use it on almost any kind of wicket, but if conditions do not suit swing think very carefully before trying it.
It certainly will not allow you to rip through an opposition order in itself, but when used in combination with excellent control can put doubt in a batting team and give you the chance to bowl a side out.
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how do leg spinners get drift??
That's a whole different post ty. It's all to do with the Magnus Effect.
That second picture of the arm ball grip reminds me so much of Mendis the srilankan player, as he has the seam position of a medium bowler only he uses his middle finger to flick the ball to spin it.
Whenever I try and bowl my arm ball it turns back in instead of skidding through. Anyone know what I can do?
The arm ball shouldn't turn, although it might hit the seam and cut back in. Are you still rolling your wrists?
I'm trying not to roll the wrist and I don't think that's the reason. I can just feel it dragging along my hand and that's what's doing it.
If it is not hitting the seam it must be turning surely? I think I would have to see you bowl.
can you tell me how to bowl the top spinner?i am a finger spinner
This is a post about the arm ball, but I'll see if I can come up with something.
okay, can u tell when exactly i should use the arm ball
It varies depending on the game, bowler and conditions. There is no exact answer. Do you have a good arm ball?
yea i have good control over it but i feel the batsmen are picking it quite easily.what shud i do?
I would need to see you bowling to be sure. One possibility is that you are changing your action when you bowl it, not just your grip. An off spinner I have coached in the past used to really make it obvious because he would try and bowl it at medium pace, really 'wind up' in his action while pulling a face and the batsman was ready for it.
is it a possibility that i am changing my grip too early in the action?
It's possible. Any vids of your action?
i'm not sure but i would be happy if you could tell me drills to improve my arm ball
That would be tricky without knowing what the issue is Vamsee.
Gidday mate i am an offspin bowler and find that somedays i produce too much spin and the delivery either goes down legside or at the batsmens legs for easy runs. or it is a wide as i try to pitch it as wide as i can. is there a way to reduce the amount of spin that i put on the ball. i was thinking wrist position or arm height. cheers.
wouldn't bowling a bit quicker help? since you are already getting a lot of spin....if you increase your speed who will get a little less spin and the speed will also force the batsman to play quickly...and make a mistake doing that..
i am a left arm finger spinner, and can get a bit of turn on my deliveries, i am trying to integrate an arm ball into my game, my arm ball seems to be lacking any sense of direction, can you please tell me how i could control my arm ball a bit better and also how i can get more turn on my spinners please?
Stampsey, I'm an SLA, and found the same with the arm ball (couldn't control it). I mucked about with the grip, and eventually found one that worked; I have the seam running alongside my middle finger, so looking at my hand from behind, the seam appears to the left of my middle finger. Of course , this may not work for you, but my point is that the orthodox is what works for most people, not necessarily everyone.
im a right arm off spin and i can bowl a arm bowl its not that easy i had to practice a lot.
'Gidday mate i am an offspin bowler and find that somedays i produce too much spin and the delivery either goes down legside or at the batsmens legs for easy runs. or it is a wide as i try to pitch it as wide as i can. is there a way to reduce the amount of spin that i put on the ball. i was thinking wrist position or arm height. cheers.'
Never worry about too much spin. Try tisting your wrist to lessen the angle of spin. Varying the angle of your wrist will add to the mystery of how far the ball will turn.You could also come round the wicket as wide as you can without going no-ball and pitch at the batsman's feet. It may straighten up and go for his stumps to bowl him or get him lbw.
i have a problem exactly opposite to yhe one above.i hardly get any turn on the ball.please help me
That's rough. The ball and the pitch can have a big influence on how the ball turns. I sometimes test the ground by throwing a high under-arm spin straight up. If it doesn't turn on landing, the ground or the ball aren't good for turn. The best turning pitches are so dry that they crumble. The ball can then dig itself in and grip well. Try youtube tutorials. try different ways to spin the ball. I try using Warne's method with complete disaster. Mt best turns are when I spin the ball in the most natural way I have.
Maybe you're bowling the ball too fast. Try delivering it more slowly, Sending it higher to give it a longer flight.
Let me know how you do from now.
That's rough. The ball and the pitch can have a big influence on how the ball turns. I sometimes test the ground by throwing a high under-arm spin straight up. If it doesn't turn on landing, the ground or the ball aren't good for turn. The best turning pitches are so dry that they crumble. The ball can then dig itself in and grip well. Try youtube tutorials. try different ways to spin the ball. I try using Warne's method with complete disaster. My best turns are when I spin the ball in the most natural way I have.
Maybe you're bowling the ball too fast. Try delivering it more slowly, Sending it higher to give it a longer flight.
Let me know how you do from now.
than you David Hinchliffe
and i want you to do one more thing
iam not great spinner(left arm finger spin) of the ball, my ball only spins little bit any suggestions on how to get more revolutions.
thank you David Hinchliffe
and i want you to do one more thing
iam not great spinner(left arm finger spin) of the ball, my ball only spins little bit any suggestions on how to get more revolutions.
wouldnt it be easier to grip the ball the same way as a swing bowler?cos either way the seam is upright.
You could do it that way, although the obvious change in grip may alert the batsman to your plan.
but its still obvious even with the grip described above
Not if you do it right.
how to get more revolutions in the ball
I can rip the ball and can produce a good arm ball. But i am only 5'5". Is my height going to make problems for bowling? Another question is can changing the pace of the ball while bowling arm ball going to help? Can we impart flight along with the arm ball?
how to get more revolutions in the ball?
For left-arm-orthodox bowlers struggling with the amount of spin they can generate: (1) *pivot* - before delivering you should be facing (at least) parallel to the crease. Turn your left shoulder as far back as you can comfortably. From there you should pivot on your right foot all the way around. Turn comes from the whole body generating spin, not just the fingers. (2) as someone said already *flight* - try to flight the ball higher than the eye-level of the batsman. Focus on imparting as many revolutions on the ball as possible. Don't try to throw the ball... think of it more as "tossing it up". (3) Try slowing down if you're bowling fast.
Left arm spinners need control and variation (line, speed, flight, use of crease). It's all about deception.
For a batsman to play you really well he will have to be extremely good at skipping down the track, and at sweeping. You'll likely see a few who can do that, but not many.
Your height will make no difference to the amount of spin you can generate. Also think about developing a faster one in the blockhole.
You should probbly not move your wrists as much, increase your speed. A big turning delivery should be used as a suprise. If you still cant try bowling wider of the stumps and bowl far outside off.
Height wont make a difference the shorter you are the quicker the ball will arrive so your arm ball will be more succesful. When tall spinners bowl the ball comes slower because of the natural release you should be happy.
Right indeed. But your grip should be fairly loose because the tighter the grip the less rip you get. If you still cant turn it bowl slower also pivot to the maximum. You could also use the chinaman/doosra to bowl right handers through the gate. Try tossing it up. Try using a different grip to the orthodox. Graeme Swann doenst use the orthodox grip still succesful, neither does Warne, Murali or Vettori. Swann has one finger and relies on his knuckle on his middle finger. To get variation using this grip rotate the seam. Warne is less apart, Vettori is just 2 fingers on the side seam.
Bowl slower, release pressure on grip, pivot to the max, rotate your wrists more and tweak your fingers more
Fren. The main problem in ur case is "gripping the ball". Probably, u grip the ball in such a way that the seam is too squarer than it should be. i.e grip the ball in such is a way that the seam is at 1st or 2nd leg slip region. Partly, ur wrist position while releasing the ball also may be the problem. Gud luck!!!
@Alex - You said "But your grip should be fairly loose because the tighter the grip the less rip you get."
Is that true? I read Menno's advice here on Pitchvision and he says grip the ball tight and use the wrists to get that rip..
Won't you have a loose grip to bowl flat?
I am working on my spin and wanting to add faster one as a variation so any tips will be helpful.
My natural action sends the ball too slow without any spin. We play on matt pitches so that makes it hard as well.
You need to find a grip thats comfortable to you i think loose is better because if your girp is tight you will be tense to the crease. Aiming for where to bowl its better if you are relaxed and have total control and visualizing the stroke u want the batsman to play
Warne and Murali have loose grips plus they are succesful for their relaxed approached with maximum energy, composure and make the batsman play what they dont want to play.
If you play on matt pitches then vary pace of the ball, change flights, bowl over and around the wicket. If the keeper or yourself can find a weakness of the batsman target there. If your arm ball is much quicker than your stock its too obvious. Im a keeper batsman, left handed and opening in yr7. Our team has a right arm googly spinner, a leg spinner and right arm offie when im not keeping i bowl left arm wrist spin but knows alot about all types.
By kicking the ball from the seam and landing it out side off stump trying to drift it in or out.
Dont overuse this arm ball variation,only then the batsmen will not guess it.
At what speed should arm ball be delievered ? WHAT RANGE OF SPEED WOULD BE CORRECT B/W 85-90 OR B/W 90-100
how to produce pace in an arm ball??
To produce 'pace' off an arm ball you are best off using back spin in the style of a pace bowler (note, I DON'T mean ram the ball down faster with greater arm speed) although it defies the arm ball desciption, meaning a ball that comes wholly with the arm. You don't need to stress since by virtue of the regular arm ball not having top spin, it would anyway zip faster in the air. So don't try to 'produce pace'